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I'm going to be drawing fairly complex drawings in the air with flame (for a long exposure photo). I want an easy way to have a flame for a long time with little hassle and without the wind blowing it out. A propane torch seems like the obvious answer. The only problem is that it's flame is so regular and too blue. Not enough of the dancing joy of regular flame.
Any compromise you can think that's in-between a propane torch and dipping an actual torch and relighting it often.
Thanks for any advice!
-julian (very much a beginner)
Any compromise you can think that's in-between a propane torch and dipping an actual torch and relighting it often.
Thanks for any advice!
-julian (very much a beginner)
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Tue, June 15, 2004 - 1:09 PMA propane torch mixes the fuel with air before it burns to get a hot blue flame; if you use something that burns propane without premixing it, you get a cooler (but brighter) yellow flame which is probably what you want. -
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Tue, June 15, 2004 - 1:43 PMYes yes yes! That sounds great.
Yummy yellow/red flame is ideal.
In search of a new attachment for a propaine tourch,
-julian ten toes -
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Mon, June 21, 2004 - 11:20 PMAm I correct in assuming that by 'red' you mean 'artificially colored'? If so, may I recommend Tri-Ess Sciences, which has a catalog of the different chemicals with which to make the different colors and flame effects. I haven't gone to their website yet, but I used to have a catalog of theirs before it was, er, 'borrowed' several months ago by a friend....
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Tue, June 22, 2004 - 3:33 AMI made the flames on my flaming sign much bigger and brighter (little blue) by removing the orifice from my torch and boring out the tiny hole 1mm larger. I drilled and tested in steps till I got the best mix. If that don't suit ya, go to Lowe's and get a bottle of MAPP gas to try with your torch. -
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Mon, June 28, 2004 - 1:52 PMSir BobTheBuilder,
I covered up the air holes on the propain and now
it's a nice normal red/yellow. Why drill another hole
at all? Right now the way I have it, there's some risk
that the wind can blow it out. Does drilling another hole
help with that (without turning the flame all blue again?)
Thanks BTB,
-julian -
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Fri, July 2, 2004 - 5:40 PMI was not talking about the holes along the side, I was talking about the little nozle the propane travels through. Make that tiny little hole a bit bigger (more fuel, more flame)
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Mon, June 28, 2004 - 1:48 PMSenor B,
Thanks for the messaging we've done.
I just put metal tape over the holes and like you suggested, the flame is red and jumps about. Simple and yet it works. Life is good. Thank you so much!!!
-julian geek
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Thu, June 17, 2004 - 3:58 PMWhat length of time are you talking about? And where are you planning on shooting this?
Lamp oil fueled wick burns for a much longer time say, on the playa. -
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Re: Drawing with flame - in search of a paint brush
Mon, June 28, 2004 - 1:56 PMHi Willow,
How long? Maybe 5 minutes.
Yup, all the shooting will be on the playa.
You're right, a lamp oil fueled wick would work
and should last long enough. Propane is so damn
easy though. Also, I have an idea that the propane
will be easier to control and won't go out as easily.
Not sure if that's actually true.
Thanks!
-julian
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