costuming standards?

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What are your standards for costuming materials? What peramiters are and are not acceptable in fabrics? Do you burn test potential materials? If so what standards do they need to hold to?
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  • Re: costuming standards?

    Sun, August 8, 2004 - 4:34 AM
    Hi Gigi!

    Of course no official standards exist. But there are some very common-sense rules of thumb for creating a safe firedancing costume. Of course, you can choose to experiment outside these boundaries, but have an extinguisher handy. And a friend with a cellfone. And lots of ice. And don't say I didn't tell you so...

    ..........................

    1) The most fireproof materials are leather, denim, cotton, in that order. Until you're an expert fire manipulator, stick with that.

    2) Synthetics are always risky, and forget frilly lacy stuff, that's just asking for trouble. Lacy frilly stuff can become a lit fuse very quickly, and synthetics have a nasty habit of burn-melting right into your skin.

    3) It's safer to have snug, bodyforming costumes, with no dangling things or big headresses. Baggy outfits, fringes, and big headgear are obstacles to your fire manipulation, and can cause you to have an accident, or at the very least tangle your chains or mess up your act. Horns look hella-cute on a pretty firegirl, but PLEASE remember they are there.

    4) Masks are iffy. They can restrict your vision, and some mask designs can store up fumes from your lit props. Remember that you are dancing (hyperventilating) in a cloud of noxious smoke. Do your best to keep it away from your face.

    5) Burn-test any material you've never used before. You'd be surprised at some of the results. Do a dry-burn and a fuel-burn. This will save you the heartache of building yourself a flammable fire-goddess costume. And it will save your show. Also, it may be smart to spray yourself with a mist of water before firing up.

    6) There's fire-retardant treatments... like Flamex™, that you can use with some success on some sketchy fabrics. BUT remember that these are chemicals and they can screw up your new costume. Sometimes the colors change, stretch-fabrics can lose their elasticity, and the shiny surface of some metallic lamés may just corrode right off. (It's ugly, and it happened to 6 expensive golden costumes right before our opening night.) Spot-test your materials before using any fire retardant.

    7) And most importantly, once you are finished creating your costume, you have to send me pictures of you modeling it. (-;

    Happy sewing!
    • Re: costuming standards?

      Mon, August 9, 2004 - 10:09 AM
      well I am happy to say that the new fabric I was experimenting with has turned out to be beyond fabulous we have a safe version of faux fur look in 100% cotton and a VERY heavy base weave we have tested it dry and fuled I made the first peice and we did a test run in a smallish show we just did they were awsome... I posted the pics in my profile ;-)
  • Re: costuming standards?

    Sun, August 8, 2004 - 4:40 AM
    Hi Gigi!

    Of course no official standards exist. But there are some very common-sense rules of thumb for creating a safe firedancing costume. Of course, you can choose to experiment outside these boundaries, but have an extinguisher handy. And a friend with a cellfone. And lots of ice. And don't say I didn't tell you so...

    ..........................

    1) The most fireproof materials are leather, denim, cotton, in that order. Until you're an expert fire manipulator, stick with that.

    2) Synthetics are always risky, and forget frilly lacy stuff, that's just asking for trouble. Lacy frilly stuff can become a lit fuse very quickly, and synthetics have a nasty habit of burn-melting right into your skin.

    3) It's safer to have snug, bodyforming costumes, with no dangling things or big headresses. Baggy outfits, fringes, and big headgear are obstacles to your fire manipulation, and can cause you to have an accident, or at the very least tangle your chains or mess up your act. Horns look hella-cute on a pretty firegirl, but PLEASE remember they are there.

    4) Masks are iffy. They can restrict your vision, and some mask designs can store up fumes from your lit props. Remember that you are dancing (hyperventilating) in a cloud of noxious smoke. Do your best to keep it away from your face.

    5) Burn-test any material you've never used before. You'd be surprised at some of the results. Do a dry-burn and a fuel-burn. This will save you the heartache of building yourself a flammable fire-goddess costume. And it will save your show. Also, it may be smart to spray yourself with a mist of water before firing up.

    6) There's fire-retardant treatments... like Flamex™, that you can use with some success on some sketchy fabrics. BUT remember that these are chemicals and they can screw up your new costume. Sometimes the colors change, stretch-fabrics can lose their elasticity, and the shiny surface of some metallic lamés may just corrode right off. (It's ugly, and it happened to 6 expensive golden costumes right before our opening night.) Spot-test your materials before using any fire retardant.

    7) And most importantly, once you are finished creating your costume, you have to send me pictures of you modeling it. (-;

    Happy sewing!
    • Re: costuming standards?

      Tue, August 10, 2004 - 1:22 PM
      Hi Gigi & al, I lately saw a cotton sweater on a fellow dancer light up much more easily than any of us were comfortable with...we decided it had a short nap on it that facilitated a strange, hollywood movie fire kind of affect where the flame moved up the sweater but didn't catch the whole thing - so cotton sweaters may be a no-no.
    • Re: costuming standards?

      Wed, August 11, 2004 - 3:32 AM
      That's strange that my entry was re-posted seven minutes later, like some bad Tribe echo. Sorry about that, if it was my fault somehow.

      But I wanted to say that FURS, especially synthetic furs, are kinda scary too. Sexy as heck, but you may wanna be careful with how much you use and of what kinds. I've seen cheap synth fur in dayglo colors become a smoldering mass of burning plastic that drips liquid flames of black stuff.

      Nice pictures!!!! Thanks for posting them Gigi!
      • Re: costuming standards?

        Sun, September 5, 2004 - 3:30 PM
        All sweaters need to be checked for any form of nap and fuzz before lighting up.

        Tightly woven wool is actually more resistant to fire than denim. Not only does it make excellent clothing to wear but an ideal fire blanket as well as a fantastic ground cover when one is needed (ie: when someone wants thier stage covered, wool carpet works amazing!).

        Not all cotton is slow burning. Some smoulders and you don't realize it and then will burst into flames.
        Those that are of a thicker and tighter weave do not allow alot of air through and so do not burst into flames as quickly as a cheap t-shirt or a loose weave shirt, even when made of denim (cotton).

        I have a chart of burn times on fabrics around here somewhere from when I tested them all myself. I know that Malcolm has it up under articles on Home of Poi.


        Fire retardants and resistants are a dip that are used to slow the ignition times of fabrics, but remember they *do not* make items flame proof. That is a common mistake that I have seen cost people their flesh.
        It can be purchased by the gallon at www.theaterhouse.com

        Take care!
        • Re: costuming standards?

          Wed, September 8, 2004 - 8:14 PM
          Thanks Pele..... the fabric we have been using is actually a 100% cotton bath rug from walmart.. no shit. Made kick ass fur look with out fur issue costuems BUT it was less desirable dry as I found when I wavered from my standard protocol in the post mutatyor show at BM sat night and forgot to wet down... no biggy we keep 2-1 saftey ratio on our crew and that night ran over kill actually have 3 safteys per performer at times thank you safteys for puting out my crotch. I would say if any of ya'l want to test it go for it but its a pain in the ass to work with and I have been sewing for 27 years.... I have told every one if I ever get a bright idea like costuming us all in that crap again to find a stick and beat me silly. If some one actually digs this stuff and wants tips on sewing it I will pass on the techniques I actually finally settled on as least frustrating... but you may want to just get a head start and gouge out your eyes now ;-) a retardent on this stuff probalbly would not be a bad move BUT I get nervous using them since one they destroy costumes and 2 IMO they seem to make safteys lax in the knowledge that this fabric is treated. After all awarness is always the first saftey proceduer.